That disinformation was alleged by Mr. Hugi the third day into Jim Jaggers defense and it was never objected to by Mr. Jagger . There is also a recording where she says that she had no idea who shot them. After all, Cheryl Downs is basically serving a life sentence with no possibility of parole for her mothers crime. A conviction founded on lies is no conviction at all. Page 50 of Case History. He may still reside in Arizona, but there is no proof of the same. Guilty or not, we should know better than to use the justice system as a psychic tool when theres not enough evidence. He gave temporary custody to Dr. Wilhite. They played the tape in the courtroom, and the fact that Diane did not break down but tapped her foot to the music, was supposed to be another proof of her guilt. One could argue that this blog does not stick to what came out at trial. The implication was not only cruel, in the light of what Diane was suffering, it was also clear. I like your approach. Not even the gun. On the single count of murder, the jurors needed a unanimous decision. The most recent tape of her daughter is not admissible because it is never allowed to bring out tapes that were obtained this way. Lack of blood spatter is not evidence of innocence Especially when a shooter is leaning in and shooting into a box (car) while standing outside. Of course. Like in their movies. The US is a very strange bird when it comes to crime and punishment. It had nothing to do with the evidence of the case and represents useless labeling anyway. lol. why didn't steve downs get custodylagu sekolah minggu bahasa inggris Opinion Fox News's blackout of Jan. 6 points to a hidden crisis for Democrats The not-so-shocking revelation that Fox News will not carry House committee hearings about the insurrection is yet another sign that right-wing media will go to extraordinary lengths to shield . did he have eyes in the back of his head.???? The detective said to leave that up to the police. Foster Carers says either Australia or England to me. If you think you would have more influence arguing for better relationships with Mexico at a Donald Trump rally in Mexico, why bother? answer the question why didn t steve downs get custody, which will help you get the most accurate answer. Considering that the daughter she murdered will never get a second chance, it will never be long enough unless its for her entire life. You need real evidence in court. This is a fascinating and informative article that has answered some questions I had, and prompted others: 1. But I am realistic. I worked for county child welfare services in Colorado for a decade. I am not saying she is innocent. I encourage you to read all the facts before being so sure that she was guilty or that she acted alone. "We are obviously disappointed at the verdict. The child was adopted and was later named Rebecca. According to Diane, she then saw a man on the road flagging her and stopped thinking he needed help. The blogger continues, I am not one sided. Therefore, my understanding is that the original sentence is deemed indefinite with parole hearings every 10 years. Much worse. While not evidence of guilt or innocence, it is certainly worth noting as part of the overall wrongs perpetrated during this fiasco of a trial and subsequent appeals. Great question. Mainly because the courts have to give every chance possible and all the services necessary to the bio family to try to preserve the relationship. It is normally done (in fact in many jurisdictions, can ONLY be done) by going through the process in a different state or county then the one the applicant works with. The price of celebrity for her was losing her freedom and her children for life. But you are right to say that it is my site. Diane Downs Now: Her Failed Attempts to Get Parole Ask them what they did to a good man. The fact that the Hugis did so successfully is arguably proof of this. Thats why Diane wouldnt agree to marry unless Knick first signed a premarital agreement that when they divorced, Knick would take nothing from their marriage. This reminds me of what a jail counselor named Rachel Roth said at the trial of Debra Milke Its my opinion that this young woman has been judged in a way that signifies something to do with how we view women in our society. Mrs. Fredericksons concern for her daughters emotional state was well placed. This blog is riddled with inconsistencies, suppositions and a lack of the most basic referencing (e.g. So it would be logical to conclude that it would have left residues if anyone had shot at least 6 times. The men in her life were in no shape or form called on their irresponsible or wild behavior. .well yay for youtubelol..is when I first heard her in old interviews. The unreliability of childrens testimony has been documented by cognitive psychologists such as Elizabeth Loftus of the University of Cornell and others. The prosecutor would gently shake his head and the good judge would follow with a ruling. People tend to forget that the group of young women hanging out with Manson were deeply engaged in serious drug use and totally out of their mind at the time. Maybe that her mom was obviously not well after spending her life in prison so it would have been a good idea to meet the Downss family quietly and get the jest of it. It was omnipresent in the courtroom as well as the Duran Duran song, The judge instructed them to continue on to force a verdict. A demonstration in court strongly suggested that the shooter had to be left-handed to have been able to shoot in the car at the right angle. This is an extremely tragic case and her children at the very least deserve justice. The pilots we did dealt with Japan going over the quotas of hunted whales and a company dumping toxic waste into the ocean But it didn't work out because the stock footage they were using. Q. But you sure did comment like a true asshole, huh? She did it. Lets not forget that she was presumed to have fired a gun 6 times at close range within the confines of a small car. Only after these avenues are exhausted should non-relative placement be looked at. It was positive only on a small portion of her upper hand where she said the gun touched her when she wrestled with the attacker (a detail she had mentioned before they did the test). She was not given one inch of presumption of innocence. But my beef is with the interference by the media, TV shows and Ann Rule. They checked her shoes and they were clean. They hardly investigated any other lead after a couple of weeks. A demonstration in court strongly suggested: Suggested, not confirmed. Tracy, I never said she was in the car. According to the state, the shooter was well inside the car and would have had gun powder on its clothing, body or hair if 3 people were shot in the car at close distance. CK allowed DD to drive away despite the fact she could identify him and he had a gun? She never mentioned that before, and she doesnt mention the FBI agents name. I know better now than to accept blindly the truth presented to us on a silver platter by the media and the judicial system. so which one is it????? You hit the nail right on the head. When they assess the conduct of an inmate, what counts is mostly how she behaves inside through the years and if she shows violent tendencies. I bet the records are and always have been sealed regarding this aspect of the case. woman quot~ unquote, do you remember anything like that? Diane may very well be guilty, but YIKES this investigation and trial seemed so butchered and tilted in the prosecutions favour. They now have social media arenas reminiscent of the Romans cheering at the sight of a thumb down meaning there will be a bloodshed. I am not sure. Indeed, Diane Down's murder case was a shocker for detectives. I dont know how familiar she was with the area, but I do not think that it matters anyway. When a white attractive woman like Diane Downs appears on the scene while displaying seemingly unpleasant characteristics as a mother and a personality disorder, there is no telling what the media will do with the story. Comments about the title of the website, the blogger, the bias, details like the word bipolar and when it was used when cyclothymic disorder was diagnosed by the person who treated the subject and there is an affidavit posted. Charlene would call Diane at all hours of the day and night to threaten violence if Diane continued on with her husband. According to Glamour, the motive given for why Diane shot her kids was thought to be because the married man she was seeing at the time did not want any children. A trial should be based on facts and solid direct or circumstantial evidence. Diane herself stated Cheryl was asleep on the front floorboard completely covered up with Dianes jacket how the hell did a stranger or a hitman(one of Dianes OTHER stories) KNOW Cheryl was there. Also on old footage of the trial, as there was no cameras aloud, the drawing of Christie Downs from court artist also complies with the testimony given in the book, as far as her pain and crying. After the trial that convicted Diane Downs, Fred Hugi, the Prosecutor adopted Christie and Danny (they were in foster care for 2 years before he decided to adopt them), the two surviving children. It was demonstrated at trial that the shooter shot the kids at close range. The Case of Liysa Northon Who Said True Crime Does not Pay? The court can just do an APR, Assignment of Parental Rights. That is not a quick process and is very invasive to a familys privacy. Yes, I usually answer the emails I get about the blogs. You were not there and one thing I have learned about high profile cases, is that you cannot always believe what the media, biased detectives and Ann Rule have to say. She even provided the police with her own sketch. Their haste to go to trial created this mess and lingering doubts. Jury begins deliberations in decades-old rape and murder case - WMTW Celebrity Author Covers Case Ann Rule wrote 'Small Sacrifices,' later released as a movie. If there is one thing Diane knew about her lover, is that he was fickle and did not like trouble of any kind. They made her out to be a monster, but in Beckys case, it becomes redeemable. Five doctors have observed and documented this phenomenon. Being interested in a subject without bringing emotions to the table is always the most important step. It should be illegal to use real names and facts from a criminal case while influencing the publicto falselybelieve that the whole content of the filmis true. I am a Mortuary science student, true crime fanatic, and have been following the Downs case since it happened. why didn't steve downs get custody - Maryland Idiomas No way. Maybe she didnt want to admit she was there for drugs, but you need a really tiny brain to worry about that in such a situation. Golden State Killer: Where Is the Prolific Rapist and Murderer Today? Unfortunately couldnt really do anything at that point, as the movie was not VHS yet, it only aired that oncein late 89. Who was Burt Reynolds married to when he died and who inherited his estate? Tina, if you look at family pictures of the Downs, Christie is the eldest and this is her picture. Hello. And the motive? Yet in their mind, she was already guilty. I do not believe that this type of abuse would occur today. Ive not seen the movie or read the book. Dianes father tried to hire Melvin Belli, but the judge refused to give him some time to prepare and come back to the US. They are the ones who considered Dianes children as Small Sacrifices. A reader told me that I should have a website with all the comments. On May 19, 1983, Elizabeth Diane Downs and her three small children were shot on a country road near Springfield, Oregon. Not that it matters, your opinion is about the case and not subject to geography. Basically, I dont believe the site owner has produced enough proof of anything. What would have been the conclusion to have drawn without this hate campaign? No, Im not that gullible, Okay, I just read that she faked throwing her keys. Seems to me that if that part of the story were true, and she really wanted to find her childrens shooter, she would have provided that information. This whole case is flawed. They did a trace metal test to see if Diane had held a gun. The most frequent remarks I hear about the case when confronted by the state misconduct and the lack of evidence are gut feelings I dont buy it Shes guilty She did it I know she did it Her story makes no sense Shes evil Shes crazy. It had to be her.. Not exclusively a USA trait, this happens also in many countries, but in a technologically advanced superpower like USA this attitude is more shocking, and maybe also more worldwide spread. http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v09/n364/a03.html // Prison-happy U.S. must reconsider use of mercy; Carol S. Steiker, professor at Harvard Law School, Sep. 10, 2008 , http://www.philly.com/inquirer/opinion/20080910_Prison-happy_U_S__must_reconsider_use_of_mercy.html // US Prison Population Soars to 2.3Mln People at Annual Cost of $7Bln The US prison population has soared to 2.3 million people costing the government more than $7 billion per year.